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 Post subject: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:34 am 
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Hi,

thank you very much for your free StartSSL certificates, they are great! However (mainly to convince others :D), it would be great to have a definitive list of web browsers and their versions where the StartSSL certificate is included so it doesn't cause an error. A compatibility list like the ones from Comodo, DigiCert, Entrust, GeoTrust, GoDaddy or Thawte would be great, or better even with links to more details. There used to be such a list on http://cert.startcom.org/?app=140 (see http://web.archive.org/web/200806070130 ... g/?app=140), but thats no more, why? I think its needed. For example, I've read many times that only Windows Vista and 7 download new SSL certs "on-the-fly", but I just checked out Windows XP without any SPs or updates in a VM and it didn't show an error on my SSL website with the free StartSSL cert! :D

I tried to collected the information by myself, this is what I got, still several question marks:

Operating Systems:

Web browsers:
  • Mozilla Firefox - since 2.0+ (2006-10-24) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+ (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338552, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/securit ... /#StartCom)
  • Microsoft Internet Explorer - depends on OS
  • Apple Safari - depends on OS
  • Google Chrome - depends on OS (on Linux it uses the Mozilla NSS, so yes http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ ... Management)
  • Opera - since July 2010 , http://my.opera.com/rootstore/blog/2010 ... uffix-file
  • Ephiphany - since 2.16+ (2006-09-25) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • Camino: - since 1.5+ (2007-06-05) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • K-Meleon since 1.1+ (2007-05-22) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • SeaMonkey - since 1.1+ (2007-01-18) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • Flock - since 0.9+ (2007-07-10) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • Netscape Navigator - since 9.0 (2007-10-15) based on Mozilla Gecko 1.8.1+
  • Sleipnir - ??? based on Trident or Gecko
  • Lunarscape - ??? based on Trident, WebKit or Gecko
  • Avant Browser - depends on OS (based on Internet Explorer)
  • SlimBrowser - depends on OS (based on Internet Explorer)
  • Maxthon/MyIE2 - depends on OS (based on Internet Explorer)
  • GreenBrowser - depends on OS (based on Internet Explorer)
  • Konqueror - since 2006-08-02 and version 3.5.4+

Mail clients:

Mobile Operating systems and mobile browsers:

Others:

Disclaimer: I did not test all the programs, there may be errors in this list! Please report any mistakes or additions in this thread so I can correct it/add it. Thank you.


Last edited by cider on Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:36 pm, edited 8 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:48 pm 
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in the mobile platform there is also symbian.

The certificate is not part of the default S60 OS (at least not with S60 v3), but ca.crt is easy to import http://jnsc.ch/symbian.php (only in french, but I can translate is needed)

maybe we should submit the inclusion as an idea (http://ideas.symbian.org)

I can confirm that you get a warning message on Wii.


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:41 am 
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Thank you very much for your feedback, I added the info in the first topic.

Best,
cider


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:32 am 
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Nice effort :-)

Minor corrections. Mozilla had support also for Firefox 1.5 eventually when the NSS module was back-ported. Apple and friends had support also in Tiger 10.4 through an update. But in both cases, only the old CA root was supported. The new and current CA root is supported as stated above (IIRC).

Your experience is btw correct, Microsoft Windows support starts with XP and above and for any Internet Explorer version. Just EV is only supported from IE7 and up.

Continue to enhance the list!


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:55 pm 
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Eddy, thanks for your feedback. I tried Firefox 1.5.0.12 (which is the latest 1.5.x version) in my VM and it didn't recognize the StartSSL cert on my domain. I guess if only the old "Free SSL Certification Authority" CA root was included it makes no sense to add it to the list.

EV-SSL certs "with the green bar" are generally only supported in Firefox 3+, IE7+, Opera 9.5+, Safari 3.2+ and Chrome (all). Thats true for all certs, so I don't have to add it to the list I think.

I anyone posts his experience with other programs I'd be happy to add it to the list.

Best,
cider


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:23 pm 
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I have just installed my first certificate... it's working fine in IE 8, Safari and Chrome under Windows Seven

BUT NOT Firefox 3.6 !!?!!?!?

Anybody has an idea ?


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:37 pm 
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@smartek: Most probably you didn't install the intermediate certificate. Check your Domain here: http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html
And I think you are in the wrong thread... :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Huh... how come ?

You are talking about compatiblity with navigators... and it's working great with IE 8, Safari and Chrome, but not Firefox...


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 Post subject: Re: A definitive list of browser versions(!) with StartCom cert?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:10 pm 
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In Firefox 3.6 the StartCom cert is definitively included, we don't have to discuss that here :D
Its an error in your server configuration, nothing about browser compatibility.


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